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« : 12 Январь 2012, 16:02 » Процитировать


What do you think about Alexandr Dragunkin and them method of learning English?
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« Ответ #1 : 12 Январь 2012, 18:32 » Процитировать

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« Ответ #2 : 12 Январь 2012, 19:14 » Процитировать

Oops. I didn't see it.

I ask moderator to take down a theme.
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« Ответ #3 : 13 Январь 2012, 10:03 » Процитировать

mirock

Did you see his books? Some of them are available on the internet. I even downloaded one. About 6 years ago I first heard about hime, and saw one of his books then. I didn't like his Russian transcription there. I thought of looking at his book more carefully but I haven't done that. I am sorry.
I guess that those books could be helpful to somebody, but I didn't use them altogether. (I mean "at all" ab)
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« Ответ #4 : 13 Январь 2012, 11:03 » Процитировать

mirock

Did you see his books? Some of them are available on the internet. I even downloaded one. About 6 years ago I first heard about hime, and saw one of his books then. I didn't like his Russian transcription there. I thought of looking at his book more carefully but I haven't done that. I am sorry.

Just someone recommended him to me and I asked about him here.

I already had loaded one book of them. I will try to read it.

It seems it named "Быстрый прыжок в ангийский".


though unlikely it will approach to me, as other books, altogether.



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« Ответ #5 : 13 Январь 2012, 14:49 » Процитировать

I have only one question --- is he really effective?
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« Ответ #6 : 13 Январь 2012, 15:03 » Процитировать

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Some people say he is, but most of those I met said that he was a fraud and speculated on laziness of people. He promised that people could learn English in two weeks through his method.
Of course it isn't possible unless knowing a couple of dozens of words is considered knowing English.
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« Ответ #7 : 13 Январь 2012, 17:18 » Процитировать

I have only one question --- is he really effective?

Don't know yet.
As I understood from those who was writing here, They cannot say confidently nothing.

Why this interesting to me? Because I too choosed approach "no grammar".
I already read few parts of this book. As yet I don't like it. But I think I will speak this about any books at all.

I want to learn English by more nature method. I already told of that.
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« Ответ #8 : 14 Январь 2012, 21:59 » Процитировать

I  read  and  listened  Малый прыжок за 115 минут  two years ago and got  the great pleasure.
My opinion - his books are right choise for beginers.
Mirock! You have already  grown up from level  of his books.
There is not a single remedy for all occasions.
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« Ответ #9 : 14 Январь 2012, 22:53 » Процитировать

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Did you really have Dragunkin helped in increasing in your English skills? How do you evaluate your present English? Did you have any exams to check your level, or you are touristing so much that you are sure in your fluency? Is your fluency due to Dragunkin?
How possibly his books could help beginners?
At least they need to read them, and mirock doesn't like reading books.
Can you recommend something that could increase a level in English without get involved in reading, or, what is better, without looking at any books and without using such?
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« Ответ #10 : 15 Январь 2012, 00:26 » Процитировать

I  read  and  listened  Малый прыжок за 115 минут  two years ago and got  the great pleasure.
My opinion - his books are right choise for beginers.
Mirock! You have already  grown up from level  of his books.
There is not a single remedy for all occasions.

Don't care please), I still could not read it.
I cannot make myself to do it.)
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« Ответ #11 : 15 Январь 2012, 00:33 » Процитировать


At least they need to read them, and mirock doesn't like reading books.

Unfortunately it's true. But this about only such books. In general I very like to read.
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« Ответ #12 : 15 Январь 2012, 00:50 » Процитировать

I like to read very much!
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« Ответ #13 : 15 Январь 2012, 00:56 » Процитировать

I like to read veru much!

Now I read books like "Dao Toyota", "The Goal" and other similar.
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« Ответ #14 : 15 Январь 2012, 12:32 » Процитировать

lelek
Did you really have Dragunkin helped in increasing in your English skills? How do you evaluate your present English?
Dear Mirock!
Using only books for studying English is great loosing of  time.
Last year I passed tests on internet sites and got pre-intermidiate level.
In my opinion 2,5 years of my learning Ehglish  (1 year self education and 1,5 attending courses) gives no effect  of my ability speaking.
Why?
There was not enough practice in my studying.
Dragunkin appeals for focusing on practice. For this purpouse he simlifyed grummar rules.
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« Ответ #15 : 15 Январь 2012, 14:39 » Процитировать

lelek
Did you really have Dragunkin helped in increasing in your English skills? How do you evaluate your present English?
Dear Mirock!
Using only books for studying English is great loosing of  time.
Last year I passed tests on internet sites and got pre-intermidiate level.
In my opinion 2,5 years of my learning Ehglish  (1 year self education and 1,5 attending courses) gives no effect  of my ability speaking.
Why?
There was not enough practice in my studying.
Dragunkin appeals for focusing on practice. For this purpouse he simlifyed grummar rules.


Yes. You're right. The practice is basic.

I learn to English by himself approx 3 month, if not consider of school. I try more communicate on English. Basically reading and writing on forums, social webs.

Why you think that 2,5 years couldn't to give effect?

No effect at all?

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« Ответ #16 : 15 Январь 2012, 14:47 » Процитировать

I am preparing myself to getting speaking practice. I will to torturing skype and my english-speaking friends.
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« Ответ #17 : 15 Январь 2012, 19:35 » Процитировать



Why you think that 2,5 years couldn't to give effect?

No effect at all?

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Effect did not meet my expectation.
My main problem is I did not get enough practice of speaking and writing.
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Why you think that 2,5 years couldn't to give effect?

No effect at all?


Effect did not meet my expectation.
My main problem is I did not get enough practice of speaking and writing.
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What are you doing for getting practice? What is your methods?
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« Ответ #19 : 16 Январь 2012, 21:47 » Процитировать

I thought that speaking and  writing skills would appear automatically after learning sufficent number of English words.
I was my main mistake.
Now I realise that it is necessary to combine learning and active using  combination words.
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